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For those who have done a jdm swap.
I'm about to put the jdm type2 motor into my 93 L and I have a few questions. First, I'd like to use the Type2 manifold but it looks like the jdm motor doesn't use the EGR unlike the type1. Is there a way I can get around that? As a result of the missing EGR unit on the jdm type2, it looks as if the throttle plates are different on both. Does that mean I have to switch the throttle bodies over? The vacuum lines are so different in the 2 motors.
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Anybody? With all the overheating problems, I'm sure I am not the only one who has gone this route.
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The reason why the EGR is so different is because they don't have the same type of emissions that we do (thanks California). The vacuum lines are different because they drive on the right side of the car, and everything is switched around.
Depending on if you have emissions or not, I would block the EGR valve, you'll actually gain a slight bit of performance out of the engine. You'll get a check engine light, but that's about it. If you have emissions, you'll probably have to figure out a way to swap the intake manifolds. I'm not very experienced in the JDM swaps, Stevieray might be able to help you more, he has a JDM engine in his sedan.
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I don't really care about the emissions, my car is registered in WVA and emissions is not an issue. I was just concerned that my car will run poorly w/o the EGR. Will the check engine light hinder performance? I know in my old b18c1 civic, the CEL would cause it to run in "limp" mode. Thanks Mike!
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Mike, on my Type I swap, we were able to swap everything over since we got the same model year engine. I really can't speak to a Type II swap but I wouldn't think they would be any different.
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In order for me to run the EGR on the TypeII motor, I would have to swap the intake manifolds, something I do not want to do. I just need to trick the computer into thinking the EGR system is present. Thanks guys.
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just drop in the type2 jdm and get-r-don...
the mechanic will try and BS you about having to keep your hold manifold on but it is because of a female/male connector problem i think...right Mike??????? Anyways my friend has a 99tl and his EGR valve keeps getting plugged and he looses a ton of power and yes...his check engine light is on..so we are fixing it....but he has an auto so tranny might not be shifting right..?good luck!!
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if i were you i would tear up my engine to naked block and bored . you gain more torque. the bored size you can go ( OS .50 or .75 ) cost about 1200, all machine shop labor and parts ( piston and ring , rod bearing , main bearing , polish crank shaft , head gasket set ,) . Type 2 engine now run about 850 but you have to worry about head gasket blow soon . good luck ...
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Wrong! The TYPE I and II heads are the same height. The TYPE II Intake manifold is a nice upgrade to a TYPE I especially if you P&P it. Probably good for some 5WHP. Although its suggested to do the whole TYPE II TOP END SWAP or FULL ENGINE SWAP since it has bigger features. There are some vacuum hose differences etc. nothing too difficult. ~TRu Hybrid
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Well the motor is in but I have a couple issues:
a. Idle is at 2K due to some vaccuum hoses not connected. b. There is a plug by the passenger side valve cover (near the firewall) that doesn't have a partner. c. And of course, a check engine light. I will post pics tonight and maybe some of you gurus (Dv8, stevieray or MikeD) can shed some light to these issues. Thanks!
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anyway there aren't anything about legend that difficult to me. i torn up everything there is in legend engine .
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