Ksport Kontrol Pro Coil overs yay or nay?

[dieselcrushingrsx]

I have an 02 Type S thats struts are shot. The guy before put Skunk2 lowering springs on it. But anyways just want some opinions on the Ksports. Im just wanting them for street use. Maybe track a couple of times. Also looking at Megans and Teins. So let me know what you think. Got some money to put in her.

[djbme83]

i'm no expert, but last i heard Megans are kinda cheap. C25A1guy will have a better opinion.

[C25A1guy]

Megan/KSport/D2 Racing/BC: All the same bottom of the barrel crap. As far as which one of all of these identical items would be better, I would probably suggest Megan since they do have the purchasing power to force the manufacture in Taiwan to change the design. Advantages of these coilovers on the used market is that they're dirt cheap used, they they are servicable. Meaning you can have them rebuilt for better valving and be able to use good quality springs on them (Eibach, Swift, Hyperco, etc)

Tein: I kinda have a love/hate thing going on with Tein for a while now (there's a reason why I'm no longer a direct dealer for them, because I called them out on something and they didn't like what I had to say). Tein's damper are built really well. I like them and overall quality of build is very high (I can't say much about the new Street Basic/Advanced systems that are to replace the Basic and Super Street kits). The downfall with Tein is their springs. I can't say if it's the material or the coil diameter (or lack thereof), but Tein springs (both lowering and the springs on their coilover systems) blows. Many of my customers that have heeded my advice swap the springs out for some Eibach ERS or Hyperco springs. They find that the system is easier to dial in, and does a better job as what it's suppose to do. Most Tein coilover systems are primarily street focused systems. That means they'll do quite well on the street, but I do find that they are a little bit on the soft side for track use at a competitive level. The occasional HPDE or auto-x, you'll be fine.

Buddy Club: These are probably my more favorite mid-range consumer level systems. The N+ is a very nice entry level system for an aggressive street, occasional track setup. The RSD system is even more aggressive, but still streetable. You will sacrifice street ride quality for a more track oriented system with the Buddy Club kits.

KW: With the KW V3, these are probably what I would consider a high end/entry level motorsports setup. Very high quality system and like many european manufactures, the focus is more on the damper than the spring rate (unlike asian manufactures setups which are more spring rate focused). The other big advantage is the better engineering and R&D that a company like KW has. But you do pay a pretty penny for these. On average, these are about 50% more expensive than many of your asian made kits.

Custom built setups: The limitation here is really how deep your wallet is, but don't expect anything for less than $1500/corner. At least with something like this, you can use bodies from any manufacture of your choosing: Ohlins, Bilstein, Penske, Koni (motorsports series, not the yellow Sport shocks), etc. Again, like I said, limitation is how deep your wallet is, and this is really more reserved for the guys doing professional racing series like BTCC, ATCC, World Challenge, Grand Am, etc.

[Spade]

Ksport has the 2nd most retarded spring rates for the RSX, only beat by Junk2.

try AMR or Koni/GC

[dieselcrushingrsx]

Originally Posted by C25A1guy

Megan/KSport/D2 Racing/BC: All the same bottom of the barrel crap. As far as which one of all of these identical items would be better, I would probably suggest Megan since they do have the purchasing power to force the manufacture in Taiwan to change the design. Advantages of these coilovers on the used market is that they're dirt cheap used, they they are servicable. Meaning you can have them rebuilt for better valving and be able to use good quality springs on them (Eibach, Swift, Hyperco, etc)

Tein: I kinda have a love/hate thing going on with Tein for a while now (there's a reason why I'm no longer a direct dealer for them, because I called them out on something and they didn't like what I had to say). Tein's damper are built really well. I like them and overall quality of build is very high (I can't say much about the new Street Basic/Advanced systems that are to replace the Basic and Super Street kits). The downfall with Tein is their springs. I can't say if it's the material or the coil diameter (or lack thereof), but Tein springs (both lowering and the springs on their coilover systems) blows. Many of my customers that have heeded my advice swap the springs out for some Eibach ERS or Hyperco springs. They find that the system is easier to dial in, and does a better job as what it's suppose to do. Most Tein coilover systems are primarily street focused systems. That means they'll do quite well on the street, but I do find that they are a little bit on the soft side for track use at a competitive level. The occasional HPDE or auto-x, you'll be fine.

Buddy Club: These are probably my more favorite mid-range consumer level systems. The N+ is a very nice entry level system for an aggressive street, occasional track setup. The RSD system is even more aggressive, but still streetable. You will sacrifice street ride quality for a more track oriented system with the Buddy Club kits.

KW: With the KW V3, these are probably what I would consider a high end/entry level motorsports setup. Very high quality system and like many european manufactures, the focus is more on the damper than the spring rate (unlike asian manufactures setups which are more spring rate focused). The other big advantage is the better engineering and R&D that a company like KW has. But you do pay a pretty penny for these. On average, these are about 50% more expensive than many of your asian made kits.

Custom built setups: The limitation here is really how deep your wallet is, but don't expect anything for less than $1500/corner. At least with something like this, you can use bodies from any manufacture of your choosing: Ohlins, Bilstein, Penske, Koni (motorsports series, not the yellow Sport shocks), etc. Again, like I said, limitation is how deep your wallet is, and this is really more reserved for the guys doing professional racing series like BTCC, ATCC, World Challenge, Grand Am, etc.

Thanks Dean. From what it looks like your one of the most respected well known people on here. lol Your info is very helpful Have any info on H&R setup? And i want my budget on this around $1,500. Im only 16 and my mom doesnt even like me making simple repairs to my car. hahaha. She feels like im putting too much money into my baby. But she can get over it. I have $1,000 saved up now.

[C25A1guy]

Originally Posted by dieselcrushingrsx

Thanks Dean. From what it looks like your one of the most respected well known people on here. lol Your info is very helpful Have any info on H&R setup? And i want my budget on this around $1,500. Im only 16 and my mom doesnt even like me making simple repairs to my car. hahaha. She feels like im putting too much money into my baby. But she can get over it. I have $1,000 saved up now.

H&R makes a very good quality product. That's why the features to price ratio is pretty low. H&R typically tends to be a bit on the aggressive side. I really haven't touched a H&R coilover since a 00 Type R since not many RSX owners run them.

I can't say that I can blame your mom. Considering I'm probably well over a decade your senior, and having my own kid, I can see where she's coming from. She just wants to ensure that you're being fiscally responsible and not just tossing cash out the window. My suggestion is to always know what you're going to build the car for, write down a build plan and budget it. Also don't blow that budget, and don't put every cent you have into that budget either. This is an expensive hobby, trust me (I have well over $100k into my RSX over the years). Just gotta be smart about it and have a road map. Some words of wisdom for ya from someone that's been there and done that.

Also, if you like tinkering and working with your hands, I suppose that your parents want you to goto college. Let them know that by you tinkering/doing your own repairs and maintenance, you are teaching yourself a trade skill that you can fall back on in case in the future the economy gets anything like it is today and your bachelor's degree is worth about the same as toilet paper.

[dieselcrushingrsx]

Originally Posted by C25A1guy

H&R makes a very good quality product. That's why the features to price ratio is pretty low. H&R typically tends to be a bit on the aggressive side. I really haven't touched a H&R coilover since a 00 Type R since not many RSX owners run them.

I can't say that I can blame your mom. Considering I'm probably well over a decade your senior, and having my own kid, I can see where she's coming from. She just wants to ensure that you're being fiscally responsible and not just tossing cash out the window. My suggestion is to always know what you're going to build the car for, write down a build plan and budget it. Also don't blow that budget, and don't put every cent you have into that budget either. This is an expensive hobby, trust me (I have well over $100k into my RSX over the years). Just gotta be smart about it and have a road map. Some words of wisdom for ya from someone that's been there and done that.

Also, if you like tinkering and working with your hands, I suppose that your parents want you to goto college. Let them know that by you tinkering/doing your own repairs and maintenance, you are teaching yourself a trade skill that you can fall back on in case in the future the economy gets anything like it is today and your bachelor's degree is worth about the same as toilet paper.

Thanks Dean. Really appriciate your advice. And all im wanting is a street turbo build. Nothing too fancy. Just something I can show off in here in town and at meets. Maybe to the track a couple of times a year. The reason I'm focused on suspension at the moment is because my struts are gone, an starting to get on my nerves. lol