03 TLS vs. Camero?

[bchenmdx]

Not sure if it was a Camero or Firebird. How does the TL fair with this car. I tailed him to see if he wanted to play and sure enough he did. he floored it and raped me. I eventually caught up to him and try to make a pass to the right as he was blocked by a car in front, saw me coming fast on the right but raped me again as he cut to the right in front of me and made the pass. I gave up then b/c of how bumpythe parkway was and construction, and usually a state pig lasering.........but could the TL take the camero on a flat straight?!?!?!

[Slider]

It depends...if is is an RS, sure...SS, not a chance

[sjlee]

Originally posted by Slider
It depends...if is is an RS, sure...SS, not a chance

If you're talking the newer Camaros/Firebirds...

The V6 ones should be easily beaten with the TLS.

Z28 or SS has a V8 and enough HP/torque to embarrass a TLS (stock vs. stock). With a manual transmission, you're talking mid to high 13s in the 1/4 for the Z28 (mid to low 13s for the SS).

The TLS is good for mid to high 14s in the 1/4.

[Zarba]

A V-8 Z28 or SS will smoke ya. They may have mullets, but they should not be trifled with...

[n2oJunkie]

LS1 is not something to mess with

[ice091298]

camaro z28, ss, trans am, ws6 are not to be messed with.

i test drove one over a year ago when i had the tls and the dealer didnt ride along. the tiremarks are still there

[RussStang]

Camero

CamAro

[AcuraPRIDE619]

Hahaha. Who races with a TL anyways. It's gay. Camaro is a sports car. TL falls more into the Luxury. Camaro will definately win without a doubt. If you wanted to fair so bad with the sports cars you should've gotten an IS300. With the Twin Turbo Supra Engine it can Take the SS Camaro to school like a fool.

[AcuraPRIDE619]

Sell your TL type S and get this

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2445852930

[RussStang]

Doesn't the is300 have the all motor supra engine? Its gonna take some money to get that thing to fly like a supra. A BPU supra is one hell of a beast, but not unbeatable. Guys spray 150 shots into ls1 engines all the time, and with a halfway decent tune the car will run fine. That would put a camaro up there with a bpu supra.

That being said, I think the supra is the most bad ass japanese sports car ever made. Yes, I even consider it better than the skyline. I like the way it looks, I like the bulletproofness of its 2jz-gte motor, and I like that it is rwd. If japan could build another car like this, I would buy. Only other japanese sports car I really like the looks of are the 3000gt vr4, just wish it wasn't so damn heavy (not that the supra is that light either.)

[DukeSpystalker]

Originally posted by AcuraPRIDE619
Hahaha. Who races with a TL anyways. It's gay.....

Dude, you are insulting every TL owner on this site. The TL is a sports sedan. There's nothing wrong with modding a TL. You should consider putting your car where your mouth is. Maybe a race or 2? Hell, even a pic of 'your' NSX would do just fine.


A friend of the family has a LS1 black/yellow/black conv. Firebird tuned by SLP that I've seen eat ZO6's at the track. All for much less then what the ZO6 cost. Those LS1 engine's are ridiculously tunable. Just outta curiosity, has anyone seen the Lingenfelter 427tt Corvette? If i remember corectly, 1/4 in under 10 secs.

[RussStang]

Originally posted by DukeSpystalker
Dude, you are insulting every TL owner on this site. The TL is a sports sedan. There's nothing wrong with modding a TL. You should consider putting your car where your mouth is. Maybe a race or 2? Hell, even a pic of 'your' NSX would do just fine.


A friend of the family has a LS1 black/yellow/black conv. Firebird tuned by SLP that I've seen eat ZO6's at the track. All for much less then what the ZO6 cost. Those LS1 engine's are ridiculously tunable. Just outta curiosity, has anyone seen the Lingenfelter 427tt Corvette? If i remember corectly, 1/4 in under 10 secs.

I believe it will run the 1/4 in something like 9.5 around 150mph. Obviously I am not too sure on the numbers.

About the TL comment. Acurapride, you are gonna find a cold reception if you go mocking TL owners on here. Aren't the new ones like 270 hp or something. Sounds pretty race worthy to me. Easily faster than the majority of the stuff on the road.

[Pure Adrenaline]

Originally posted by sjlee
If you're talking the newer Camaros/Firebirds...

The V6 ones should be easily beaten with the TLS.

Z28 or SS has a V8 and enough HP/torque to embarrass a TLS (stock vs. stock). With a manual transmission, you're talking mid to high 13s in the 1/4 for the Z28 (mid to low 13s for the SS).

The TLS is good for mid to high 14s in the 1/4.

SS is nearly identical to the Z28. They run very similar times. Not as big of a difference as low/mid to mid/high. Their official rating is at 325hp/350tq, but 00+ put down 300-320 at the wheels. (98-00 are cranking out about 280-300 at the wheels) No matter what GM says, it is indeed the identical engine to the Corvette, which means they push over 350+ hp at the crank.

With heads/cam, headers, exhaust, you're looking at probably 450-500 at the wheels. Best of all, parts are relatively cheap.

No mullet jokes. That's for the 3rd generation, and even a small percentage of owners at that. A brand new WS6 in 2002 cost 31,000 dollars and change, nearly the same as a TL-S. I don't know of many mullet-growing trailer trash that can afford a 30,000+ dollar car, not to mention insurance.

Head on over to LS1.com for more info. Some of those guys are running sick times, and their cars are beasts. I almost got an '02 WS6 6-speed in summer of 2001, but I f*cked it all up. But that's another story. I'm getting one soon, hopefully, as a weekend car that I can modify to hell and back.

And yes, these guys are right. Don't mess with LS1. If you see a Z28/SS/Trans Am/WS6 badge, then don't bother because you will get schooled. Firebird and Camaro (3.8L V6, 200 hp) is no slouch, either.

[AcuraPRIDE619]

Originally posted by RussStang
I believe it will run the 1/4 in something like 9.5 around 150mph. Obviously I am not too sure on the numbers.

About the TL comment. Acurapride, you are gonna find a cold reception if you go mocking TL owners on here. Aren't the new ones like 270 hp or something. Sounds pretty race worthy to me. Easily faster than the majority of the stuff on the road.

Besides the fact of the 270hp, the car only has about 230Torque I believe. Still has an SOHC(Single Overhead Cam) engine. I just don't understand why not make it a DOHC(Dual overhead cam) Engine? I mean even the top of the line SI has a DOHC. The fact that I said that because with DOHC you can pull more torque in the TL. I do agree though that it's raceble, but IMO I would not race the TL even if it is an Type S.

[kyoso23]

A type-S TL with an intake and some exaust will have as much HP as the NSX, just not in a race-ready body. It is quite capeable though. It would be no contest with an LT1 though, even the NSX would have a hard time with it in the 1/4.