3.5 Liter Upgrade Pricing =) - Acura Forum

deansbluesi · 08-22-03, 11:03 PM

I thought I would start my own thread about the pricing on this thing since everyone seems to want to know.

OK guys...here is what we have for pricing information...there will actually be 3 different ways to do this....

1. Stock block and gasket set to have this completed $1750 shipped to you. This is a high compression 10.8:1 (with stock CL-S/TL-S heads) non power-adder short block. (Although nitrous doesn't mind high compression, it's not a turbo or s/c application.)

2. Stock block with shot peened & magnafluxed stock rods, chamfered oil passages and balanced rotating assembly--with gasket set $3030 shipped to you. These are also 10.8:1 with the stock CL-S/TL-S heads.

3. Stock block like #2 + custom forged pistons 10.14:1, file to fit rings, shot peened/magnafluxed rods, balanced & assembled, $4300 shipped to you. (this is what is currently in the car we just finished) We can also have an all motor version of this done--just let us know what compression ratio you want to have and we can build it.

If you would like to send your car to us and have us complete the install, the labor is $1950.

Time frame for this will be dependent on how far you would like to take it. The custom pistons are about a 4-6 week lead time to receive--the machine shop is about a weeks worth of work and shipping time to you. FYI: There are currently 3 blocks available in the U.S., so availability may be an issue in the near future as they may go on national back order---I just found this out a few minutes ago.

The car runs great in its current NA configuration and this will be insane once boost is applied to it in the near future.

Transmissions are available in 2 Stages:

Stage 1 is with a funace brazed stock housing converter providing a 200RPM increase in stall speed. $2500+freight

Stage 2 is an anti-ballooning aftermarket converter--not a stock housing....provides a higher stall and suitable for power adder vehicles. $3500+freight

There are not as many internal parts available currently for the CLS/TLS 5Speed Autos as there are for the Accord/Preludes. The transmissions above are with Kevlar clutches and hardened steel shafts. We are awaiting the release of Carbon/Graphite clutches for these applications. Running production changes will occur as these parts become available.

Thanks again everyone and I just want to say that we are very pleased to be able to bring this to market for everyone.

Dean Baty

92coupeon18s · 08-23-03, 03:07 AM

damn really looks like you know what you are doing. If you think u can help out a legend man please email me legendman92@aol.com i am looking into an RL block for the legend motor.

sssick · 08-23-03, 08:33 AM

Awesome stuff man, keep up the good work.

Brian · 08-23-03, 10:58 AM

I assume you can't do the 3.5L upgrade w/o rebuilding the trans, eh?

fahoumh · 08-23-03, 01:49 PM

this is fascinating....I can't wait to turn my car into a "3.5 TL-S"

deansbluesi · 08-23-03, 01:52 PM

92coupeon18s,

Let me run some part numbers and see what I can come up with for you.

Brian,

Acutally, no, you do not need to do both at the same time. The motor upgrade can be done now and the tranny when you feel like it.

Everyone,

This swap with the 10.8:1 compression is too high for 91 octane, but we are working with a company to make a thicker head gasket so that the compression will be around 10.4:1 which will be suitable for 91.

Thanks!
Dean

*CaliMike* · 08-23-03, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by deansbluesi
This swap with the 10.8:1 compression is too high for 91 octane, but we are working with a company to make a thicker head gasket so that the compression will be around 10.4:1 which will be suitable for 91.

Thanks!
Dean

I guess that's going to kill Cali sales until you get that lower compression. 91 is the best we have out here.

*spyder5786* · 08-23-03, 02:44 PM

hmm so these are the prices for rebuilding an engine thats sent to you?

deansbluesi · 08-23-03, 04:33 PM

CaliMike,

Give me a couple of weeks....we are working on this very hard.

spyder5786,

These are for completely NEW shortblocks, sent to you for install.

Dean

*spyder5786* · 08-24-03, 01:00 AM

so these are comptable only w/ the type-s heads?

deansbluesi · 08-24-03, 10:58 PM

spyder5786,

The one we have completed was a Type S, so we know it is compatible with them. Do you have a Premium? If so, I just need to check on some things to verify fitments.

*spyder5786* · 08-25-03, 02:47 AM

yeah i have a premium..
hmmm im guessing it should fit, but it will have lower compression..?

deansbluesi · 08-26-03, 12:38 AM

Let me run some numbers for you and be positive.

stinkboy · 08-27-03, 03:34 PM

since dean is a acuraworld preferred vendor and the info about austin's ride will be updated periodically, i am sticky this thread for a period of time.

then we will move it to the AWPV forum for future information.

grocerygetter · 08-28-03, 02:12 PM

Dean

so these trannies don't require a core at that price obviously. I would also take a guess at saying you've fixed the Acura factory tranny problem by upgrading the clutch packs also, right? Where do they ship from (city state...asking for shipping reasons)
This is awesome innovation guys. Keep it up.

08-22-03, 11:03 PM	#1 (permalink)
deansbluesi Acuraworld Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Age: 37 Posts: 197	3.5 Liter Upgrade Pricing =) I thought I would start my own thread about the pricing on this thing since everyone seems to want to know. OK guys...here is what we have for pricing information...there will actually be 3 different ways to do this.... 1. Stock block and gasket set to have this completed $1750 shipped to you. This is a high compression 10.8:1 (with stock CL-S/TL-S heads) non power-adder short block. (Although nitrous doesn't mind high compression, it's not a turbo or s/c application.) 2. Stock block with shot peened & magnafluxed stock rods, chamfered oil passages and balanced rotating assembly--with gasket set $3030 shipped to you. These are also 10.8:1 with the stock CL-S/TL-S heads. 3. Stock block like #2 + custom forged pistons 10.14:1, file to fit rings, shot peened/magnafluxed rods, balanced & assembled, $4300 shipped to you. (this is what is currently in the car we just finished) We can also have an all motor version of this done--just let us know what compression ratio you want to have and we can build it. If you would like to send your car to us and have us complete the install, the labor is $1950. Time frame for this will be dependent on how far you would like to take it. The custom pistons are about a 4-6 week lead time to receive--the machine shop is about a weeks worth of work and shipping time to you. FYI: There are currently 3 blocks available in the U.S., so availability may be an issue in the near future as they may go on national back order---I just found this out a few minutes ago. The car runs great in its current NA configuration and this will be insane once boost is applied to it in the near future. Transmissions are available in 2 Stages: Stage 1 is with a funace brazed stock housing converter providing a 200RPM increase in stall speed. $2500+freight Stage 2 is an anti-ballooning aftermarket converter--not a stock housing....provides a higher stall and suitable for power adder vehicles. $3500+freight There are not as many internal parts available currently for the CLS/TLS 5Speed Autos as there are for the Accord/Preludes. The transmissions above are with Kevlar clutches and hardened steel shafts. We are awaiting the release of Carbon/Graphite clutches for these applications. Running production changes will occur as these parts become available. Thanks again everyone and I just want to say that we are very pleased to be able to bring this to market for everyone. Dean Baty __________________ 2006 TL 6-Speed--White with Tan A Spec body kit Debadged 5% Llumar window tint Rockblocker headlight and taillight tint AEM Cold Air intake (until Comptech comes out) Comptech Rear Sway Comptech Short Shifter 2003 CL-S Auto--Gone and forgotten

08-23-03, 03:07 AM	#2 (permalink)
92coupeon18s Acuraworld Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: ATL Posts: 107	damn really looks like you know what you are doing. If you think u can help out a legend man please email me legendman92@aol.com i am looking into an RL block for the legend motor. __________________ 200,000 miles and going strong http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...a/fc1fe6a0.jpg

08-23-03, 08:33 AM	#3 (permalink)
sssick Mutt Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Staten Island Age: 27 Posts: 5,266	Awesome stuff man, keep up the good work. __________________ 2003 TL-S ABP Navi *Click here for pics* http://www.acurainspired.com/gallery...486_p17198.jpg Last edited by sssick : 08-23-03 at 08:42 AM.

08-23-03, 10:58 AM	#4 (permalink)
Brian end me Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Bombs to set the people free, blood to feed the dollar tree. Flags for coffins on the screen, oil for the machine. Age: 31 Posts: 14,829	I assume you can't do the 3.5L upgrade w/o rebuilding the trans, eh? __________________ http://www.acurainspired.com/gallery...189_p21588.jpg

08-23-03, 01:52 PM	#6 (permalink)
deansbluesi Acuraworld Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Age: 37 Posts: 197	92coupeon18s, Let me run some part numbers and see what I can come up with for you. Brian, Acutally, no, you do not need to do both at the same time. The motor upgrade can be done now and the tranny when you feel like it. Everyone, This swap with the 10.8:1 compression is too high for 91 octane, but we are working with a company to make a thicker head gasket so that the compression will be around 10.4:1 which will be suitable for 91. Thanks! Dean __________________ 2006 TL 6-Speed--White with Tan A Spec body kit Debadged 5% Llumar window tint Rockblocker headlight and taillight tint AEM Cold Air intake (until Comptech comes out) Comptech Rear Sway Comptech Short Shifter 2003 CL-S Auto--Gone and forgotten

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08-23-03, 01:49 PM	#5 (permalink)
fahoumh Transform and roll out Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Kitchener, ON, Canada Age: 27 Posts: 5,534 Car 1: '02 TL-S	this is fascinating....I can't wait to turn my car into a "3.5 TL-S"

08-23-03, 02:44 PM	#8 (permalink)
spyder5786 Integra Mod Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Chicago Age: 22 Posts: 7,059 Car 1: 99 MBP TL	hmm so these are the prices for rebuilding an engine thats sent to you? __________________ Tirerack Upgrade Garage

08-23-03, 04:33 PM	#9 (permalink)
deansbluesi Acuraworld Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Age: 37 Posts: 197	CaliMike, Give me a couple of weeks....we are working on this very hard. spyder5786, These are for completely NEW shortblocks, sent to you for install. Dean __________________ 2006 TL 6-Speed--White with Tan A Spec body kit Debadged 5% Llumar window tint Rockblocker headlight and taillight tint AEM Cold Air intake (until Comptech comes out) Comptech Rear Sway Comptech Short Shifter 2003 CL-S Auto--Gone and forgotten

08-24-03, 01:00 AM	#10 (permalink)
spyder5786 Integra Mod Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Chicago Age: 22 Posts: 7,059 Car 1: 99 MBP TL	so these are comptable only w/ the type-s heads? __________________ Tirerack Upgrade Garage

08-24-03, 10:58 PM	#11 (permalink)
deansbluesi Acuraworld Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Age: 37 Posts: 197	spyder5786, The one we have completed was a Type S, so we know it is compatible with them. Do you have a Premium? If so, I just need to check on some things to verify fitments. __________________ 2006 TL 6-Speed--White with Tan A Spec body kit Debadged 5% Llumar window tint Rockblocker headlight and taillight tint AEM Cold Air intake (until Comptech comes out) Comptech Rear Sway Comptech Short Shifter 2003 CL-S Auto--Gone and forgotten

08-25-03, 02:47 AM	#12 (permalink)
spyder5786 Integra Mod Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Chicago Age: 22 Posts: 7,059 Car 1: 99 MBP TL	yeah i have a premium.. hmmm im guessing it should fit, but it will have lower compression..? __________________ Tirerack Upgrade Garage

08-26-03, 12:38 AM	#13 (permalink)
deansbluesi Acuraworld Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Age: 37 Posts: 197	Let me run some numbers for you and be positive. __________________ 2006 TL 6-Speed--White with Tan A Spec body kit Debadged 5% Llumar window tint Rockblocker headlight and taillight tint AEM Cold Air intake (until Comptech comes out) Comptech Rear Sway Comptech Short Shifter 2003 CL-S Auto--Gone and forgotten

08-27-03, 03:34 PM	#14 (permalink)
stinkboy token ring Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: milton, florida Age: 43 Posts: 6,735 Car 1: 04 bmw 330i zhp Car 2: 06 350Z roadster Car 3: 05 surburban&sierra 2500	since dean is a acuraworld preferred vendor and the info about austin's ride will be updated periodically, i am sticky this thread for a period of time. then we will move it to the AWPV forum for future information.

08-28-03, 02:12 PM	#15 (permalink)
grocerygetter acuraaudiophileanonymous Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway AR Age: 32 Posts: 310 Car 1: 87 Buick GN Car 2: 03 Accord, 05 Accord Car 3: 03 F350	Dean so these trannies don't require a core at that price obviously. I would also take a guess at saying you've fixed the Acura factory tranny problem by upgrading the clutch packs also, right? Where do they ship from (city state...asking for shipping reasons) This is awesome innovation guys. Keep it up. __________________ My Past Acuras: 2001 Integra t3/t04e and bunch of bolt-ons, later became n/a set-up with NOS addiction (CAR SOLD) 2001 3.2 TL with the normal bolt-ons and mucho audio (Alpine, Dynaudio, JL Audio...light weight install... only added 100 lbs to the car)--Mobile Electroincs magazine feature car (May '04 Sheer Ingenuity)--Car Audio & Electronics magazine feature car (Sept. '04 Tight as a Drum) (CAR SOLD)

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