Sills thread (complaints and compliments) - Acura Forum

CL2TLS · 08-16-02, 08:17 PM

yeah congrats, but I have not recieved my TL-S sills, i ordered them on july 11th.

dj24 · 08-16-02, 08:42 PM

I'm also still waiting on the door sills the door sills that I ordered on July 11th. I think they are mystery sills.

mantis23 · 08-16-02, 08:55 PM

im still waiting also

2003CLTypeS · 08-16-02, 11:41 PM

I am also am waiting on my door sills.

stinkboy · 08-17-02, 12:33 PM

how about bite me jeff for lieing to all your customers on the time frame for their respective shipments of imaginary door sills. also congratulations on fraudulently charging customers credit cards immediately and not shipping the product for months. wondering what the georgia attorney general's office thinks about this proceedure.

FLAcuraTLS · 08-17-02, 07:25 PM

Stinkboy is right, and so are most of the other members who replied on this thread..HOW THE HELL can you congratulate someone who lies about time frames and has left many people wondering when or even IF they will get their sills. Plus this guy jeff has major problems returning emails and telephone messages as stated by NUMEROUS members. Thank god i didn't order anything from this lugnut, because I wouldn't stand for such incompetance. To all those that have received their sills, congrats to them, NOT TO JEFF. Hard work and long hours, sorry Autoxcls, but if that was the case, then we wouldn't have so many pissed off members wondering when they will receive their sills that they have ALREADY PAID FOR.

TunerTL-S · 08-17-02, 07:58 PM

agreed,

thats the main reason i didnt get the door sills....BAD SERVICE

charging the bill to the customer before shipping it out is bad business!

[TL]Ridah · 08-17-02, 10:05 PM

wow...JEFF is gonna be pretty pissed off about this...didn't soemone say it was partial mail people's fault too?

FLAcuraTLS · 08-17-02, 10:29 PM

mail??? how about no returned phone calls, and no returned messages for weeks.There is simply no excuse for leaving numerous members hanging like that, and to charge people without sending the product, c'mon...Jeff can only be mad at HIMSELF..He should be angry at himself, for making himself look so STUPID in front of so many members on both ATL.com and this site.

civic4982 · 08-18-02, 03:05 AM

I dunno guys... some of my friends have been in the autoparts business themselves... and when the supplier or whomever is making your product screws you, you're kinda stuck... the man on the frontline gets all the $hit for an item not arriving on time and whatnot... and money is already paid to the builder to make it... wait time on car parts is something we all deal with... ex: I ordered a set of Blitz-03s for my friend's supra... took 7 months to finally get them... these kind of specialty items for cars aren't made in the millions like the cruddy fake HID bulbs that are made in China... they're custom made items that require time to be made, delivered to the vendor, and then delivered to the customer... it's a rough market place selling car goods b/c you can't tell how many you're gonna sell each month, so you can't really make them ahead of time... just my $0.02 ... trust me though, waiting 6 months for custom anything is normal... sills aren't something sold to the masses at your local convenience store...

Austin519 · 08-18-02, 04:17 AM

from the other thread...

FLAcuraTLS:
I don't think you realize dude but Tim Piscatelli of Acura TL DUMPED about 30 members on us that he left totally floating after SCREWING me and Jeff. That alone set us for an enormous loop, and set us back quite a bit not even counting how many other times we've been screwed by everyone in the process of selling these sills, INCLUDING some of the buyers. So if anyone should look stupid on ATL it's Tim, the worst businessman I have ever dealt with in my whole life.

You also act like having prepaid is a huge thing. What...do you usually get, say, springs, then pay them when you get them? I mean...is it any different? Of course you've already paid.

He is also making these from scratch, it's not like he takes your cash, charges you, then calls up a company to drop ship them. He goes out and cuts these things.

Lastly, the guys who did the indiglo gauge groupbuy waited for 4 months after paying for theirs...it could be much worse.

stinkboy:
I see you rescinded your comments on that other thread...you want to do it here?

civic4982:
Man wish all the people I dealt with were like you.

Austin519

FLAcuraTLS · 08-18-02, 08:26 PM

This is so hilarious..Hey Austin..DUDE..what a coincidence that you and Autoxcls, WHO ALREADY HAVE SILLS, are on Jeff's side and are pissed at all the negative comments and posts from members being upset at how the entire sill buying is being handled. Not only that, but your reply is made up of every excuse in the book as to why the whole sill thing is screwed up. You blame everyone and everything except the person who is doing the sills. This post is not a flame, I am just trying to see where you are coming from. So far, your not giving me and all the other members a good enough answer. And let me repeat, I WANTED THE SILLS, and was excited about getting them, but with all the different(mostly negative) comments on both TL sites, I just felt it wasn't a sure thing and didn't order them. It seems that you know this guy Jeff, so if there is a way for you to guarantee that there wont be all kinds trouble, I would gladly order sills from Jeff.

FLAcuraTLS · 08-19-02, 07:28 PM

Hey Austin, I guess you can't guarantee anything from your "Hard Working" buddy Jeff, because I thought you would have replied by now telling me that you can certainly guarantee that I won't be upset with jeff's service. Oh well, you preach all kinds of B.S. and give more excuses than my 11 year old sister, and you obviously can't guarantee anything from AP signworks. I hope I'm not "pissing" you off.

CL2TLS · 08-20-02, 02:45 PM

well jeff sent me an email last monday that was the 12th of august and said that he would be getting the last of the shipments out on the 13th, and he could provide me with a tracking number. so i waited a day or two then emailed him and asked for a tracking number. well today is the 20th and no sills and no tracking number. that is just wierd

but who knows. has anyone recieved them yet who ordered them on july 11th?

FLAcuraTLS · 08-20-02, 07:07 PM

CL2TLS, your being nice to Jeff by calling the situation weird. You, unfortunately, are just one of a number of people who has been left wondering what is going on. I am extrememly sorry that you and a bunch of other members are left out in the cold with the sills, and I only hope you get them as quickly as possible. I am still waiting for AUSTIN, who is evidently too damn good to answer any of our complaints with real answers rather than moronic excuses. I'm not surprised that our mods just shrivel up and crawl under a rock when people start pressing them. Where are you mods?? Trying to come up with some more excuses??

If this sill business was run by competant people, then we wouldn't even need a separate thread filled with complaints. There is clearly a big problem with the monkeys at AP signworks and this thread is concrete evidence of just that.

08-16-02, 08:17 PM	#1 (permalink)
CL2TLS ROOOAAAARRRR Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: NOVA Posts: 589	yeah congrats, but I have not recieved my TL-S sills, i ordered them on july 11th. __________________ 2002 TL-S NBP H&R Sport Springs, AEM CAI, OEM body kit, OBX headers

08-16-02, 08:42 PM	#2 (permalink)
dj24 Acuraworld Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 9	Door Sills - still waiting I'm also still waiting on the door sills the door sills that I ordered on July 11th. I think they are mystery sills.

08-16-02, 08:55 PM	#3 (permalink)
mantis23 Terry Tate Enforcer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Frisco, Tx Age: 30 Posts: 168	im still waiting also __________________ 2001 Satin Silver CL-S

08-16-02, 11:41 PM	#4 (permalink)
2003CLTypeS Acuraworld Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Age: 29 Posts: 18	I am also am waiting on my door sills. __________________ 2003 Acura CL Type S Taffeta White Ebony Leather Navigation 19" Niche F-16 19" Toyo FZ4 Audiobahn 1206Q Sub Phoenix Gold TA 500 Amp Custom Sub/Amp Enclosure Passort 8500 Hard Wired Red AEM CAI GReddy Evo Cat-back Dual Exhaust Eibach Lowered Rolled Fenders Comptech Headers

08-17-02, 07:58 PM	#7 (permalink)
TunerTL-S GOT RICE? Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Bay Area, "Fremont" Age: 32 Posts: 1,059	agreed, thats the main reason i didnt get the door sills....BAD SERVICE charging the bill to the customer before shipping it out is bad business! __________________ http://www.acurainspired.com/gallery...644_p19354.jpg 2002 TL-S w/Navi OEM KIT / AEM CAI Comptech Sways Koni Sports Shocks/HR OE Springs

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08-17-02, 12:33 PM	#5 (permalink)
stinkboy token ring Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: milton, florida Age: 43 Posts: 6,735 Car 1: 04 bmw 330i zhp Car 2: 06 350Z roadster Car 3: 05 surburban&sierra 2500	how about bite me jeff for lieing to all your customers on the time frame for their respective shipments of imaginary door sills. also congratulations on fraudulently charging customers credit cards immediately and not shipping the product for months. wondering what the georgia attorney general's office thinks about this proceedure.

08-17-02, 07:25 PM	#6 (permalink)
FLAcuraTLS Inspired Ride Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: So. Fla Age: 28 Posts: 304	Stinkboy is right, and so are most of the other members who replied on this thread..HOW THE HELL can you congratulate someone who lies about time frames and has left many people wondering when or even IF they will get their sills. Plus this guy jeff has major problems returning emails and telephone messages as stated by NUMEROUS members. Thank god i didn't order anything from this lugnut, because I wouldn't stand for such incompetance. To all those that have received their sills, congrats to them, NOT TO JEFF. Hard work and long hours, sorry Autoxcls, but if that was the case, then we wouldn't have so many pissed off members wondering when they will receive their sills that they have ALREADY PAID FOR.

08-17-02, 10:05 PM	#8 (permalink)
[TL]Ridah Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 1,164	wow...JEFF is gonna be pretty pissed off about this...didn't soemone say it was partial mail people's fault too? __________________ For sale: OEM Front lip painted WDP 99-01- $175 shipped. PM!

08-17-02, 10:29 PM	#9 (permalink)
FLAcuraTLS Inspired Ride Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: So. Fla Age: 28 Posts: 304	mail??? how about no returned phone calls, and no returned messages for weeks.There is simply no excuse for leaving numerous members hanging like that, and to charge people without sending the product, c'mon...Jeff can only be mad at HIMSELF..He should be angry at himself, for making himself look so STUPID in front of so many members on both ATL.com and this site.

08-18-02, 03:05 AM	#10 (permalink)
civic4982 A-CL whore... Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Austin, TX Age: 26 Posts: 217	I dunno guys... some of my friends have been in the autoparts business themselves... and when the supplier or whomever is making your product screws you, you're kinda stuck... the man on the frontline gets all the $hit for an item not arriving on time and whatnot... and money is already paid to the builder to make it... wait time on car parts is something we all deal with... ex: I ordered a set of Blitz-03s for my friend's supra... took 7 months to finally get them... these kind of specialty items for cars aren't made in the millions like the cruddy fake HID bulbs that are made in China... they're custom made items that require time to be made, delivered to the vendor, and then delivered to the customer... it's a rough market place selling car goods b/c you can't tell how many you're gonna sell each month, so you can't really make them ahead of time... just my $0.02 ... trust me though, waiting 6 months for custom anything is normal... sills aren't something sold to the masses at your local convenience store... __________________ [2003.CLType-S.6-Speed.Black] SOLD

08-18-02, 04:17 AM	#11 (permalink)
Austin519 Modalicious... Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 5,191 Your Mood: Car 1: The 3.5L TL Type S Car 2: 2008 BMW 335i	from the other thread... FLAcuraTLS: I don't think you realize dude but Tim Piscatelli of Acura TL DUMPED about 30 members on us that he left totally floating after SCREWING me and Jeff. That alone set us for an enormous loop, and set us back quite a bit not even counting how many other times we've been screwed by everyone in the process of selling these sills, INCLUDING some of the buyers. So if anyone should look stupid on ATL it's Tim, the worst businessman I have ever dealt with in my whole life. You also act like having prepaid is a huge thing. What...do you usually get, say, springs, then pay them when you get them? I mean...is it any different? Of course you've already paid. He is also making these from scratch, it's not like he takes your cash, charges you, then calls up a company to drop ship them. He goes out and cuts these things. Lastly, the guys who did the indiglo gauge groupbuy waited for 4 months after paying for theirs...it could be much worse. stinkboy: I see you rescinded your comments on that other thread...you want to do it here? civic4982: Man wish all the people I dealt with were like you. Austin519 __________________ Back in Action: 2002 Black/Black Acura TL-S Project CarDomain DIY Site and Gallery: http://www.acura-tl.org Current Mods Performance: 3.5L Engine Swap\|JE Forged Pistons\|Cryo Treated Shot Pinged Magnafluxed Rods\|Port And Polish\|5 Degree Valve Job\|Comptech Supercharger and Icebox\|Titanium Transmission With Kevlar Clutches\|Comptech Exhaust,(Jet Hot) Headers,Rear SS Brake Lines,Sways\|Neuspeed Upper Strut Tie Bar\|Rotora Big Brake Kit,Front Brake Lines,Rear Slotted Rotors,Ceramic Brake Pads\|Tein SS Coilovers,EDFC\|Pirelli P-Zero 225x45x17 Tires\|B&M Tranny Cooler\|Redline 5w20/Water Wetter Exterior: Cleared Headlights\|Clear Spoiler Lens\|Silblade Wipers Interior: Custom painted Trim\|Momo Race Shift Knob\|Leather Wrapped Rebuilt Rear Deck\|Plexi/Fiberglass Sub Box\|Plexi/MDF Sub and Computer Enclosures\|Dynamat on everything but the window glass\|Relocated hood release Electronics: Custom computer\|Alpine DVA-9965 Headunit\|Alpine PXA-H701 Processor\|XM Satellite Radio\|Xenarc 7" Widescreen Touchscreen\|Zapco 9.0XD(subs)\|Zapco 4.0X(fronts+kicks)\|Zapco 2.5X(rears+center)\|2 JL 12w7(subs)\|JL XR 650CS(fronts)\|JL XR 650CX(rears)\|JL XR 400CX(center)\|JL XR 525CS(kicks)\|Stinger Wires\|Optima Yellowtop Primary Battery\|Optima Yellowtop Secondary Battery\|200A High Output Alternator\|Solaris 9005 Highbeams\|Razo Fogs\|Custom installed hidden Valentine V1+remote display Security: Hornet 564T 2-Way Alarm\|Addt'l Shock Sensors\|Addt'l Breakage Sensors\|Automatic Up/Down All Windows+Sunroof IntegraVT - "Maybe we can organize a Neosporin® group buy for you."

08-18-02, 08:26 PM	#12 (permalink)
FLAcuraTLS Inspired Ride Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: So. Fla Age: 28 Posts: 304	This is so hilarious..Hey Austin..DUDE..what a coincidence that you and Autoxcls, WHO ALREADY HAVE SILLS, are on Jeff's side and are pissed at all the negative comments and posts from members being upset at how the entire sill buying is being handled. Not only that, but your reply is made up of every excuse in the book as to why the whole sill thing is screwed up. You blame everyone and everything except the person who is doing the sills. This post is not a flame, I am just trying to see where you are coming from. So far, your not giving me and all the other members a good enough answer. And let me repeat, I WANTED THE SILLS, and was excited about getting them, but with all the different(mostly negative) comments on both TL sites, I just felt it wasn't a sure thing and didn't order them. It seems that you know this guy Jeff, so if there is a way for you to guarantee that there wont be all kinds trouble, I would gladly order sills from Jeff.

08-19-02, 07:28 PM	#13 (permalink)
FLAcuraTLS Inspired Ride Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: So. Fla Age: 28 Posts: 304	Hey Austin, I guess you can't guarantee anything from your "Hard Working" buddy Jeff, because I thought you would have replied by now telling me that you can certainly guarantee that I won't be upset with jeff's service. Oh well, you preach all kinds of B.S. and give more excuses than my 11 year old sister, and you obviously can't guarantee anything from AP signworks. I hope I'm not "pissing" you off. Last edited by FLAcuraTLS : 08-20-02 at 01:55 AM.

08-20-02, 02:45 PM	#14 (permalink)
CL2TLS ROOOAAAARRRR Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: NOVA Posts: 589	well jeff sent me an email last monday that was the 12th of august and said that he would be getting the last of the shipments out on the 13th, and he could provide me with a tracking number. so i waited a day or two then emailed him and asked for a tracking number. well today is the 20th and no sills and no tracking number. that is just wierd but who knows. has anyone recieved them yet who ordered them on july 11th? __________________ 2002 TL-S NBP H&R Sport Springs, AEM CAI, OEM body kit, OBX headers

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08-20-02, 07:07 PM	#15 (permalink)
FLAcuraTLS Inspired Ride Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: So. Fla Age: 28 Posts: 304	CL2TLS, your being nice to Jeff by calling the situation weird. You, unfortunately, are just one of a number of people who has been left wondering what is going on. I am extrememly sorry that you and a bunch of other members are left out in the cold with the sills, and I only hope you get them as quickly as possible. I am still waiting for AUSTIN, who is evidently too damn good to answer any of our complaints with real answers rather than moronic excuses. I'm not surprised that our mods just shrivel up and crawl under a rock when people start pressing them. Where are you mods?? Trying to come up with some more excuses?? If this sill business was run by competant people, then we wouldn't even need a separate thread filled with complaints. There is clearly a big problem with the monkeys at AP signworks and this thread is concrete evidence of just that. Last edited by FLAcuraTLS : 08-20-02 at 07:13 PM.

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