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Old 02-17-06, 02:27 PM   #31 (permalink)
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The TL is my third acura, so I'd have to say yes. Had a '02 RSX, and a '03 RSX-s before. And I have never had a problem with the customer service at the dealership.
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I don't think I would purchase another one and the answer really only is partly due to the car. The 3rd gen TL I have is a nice car, but the interior materials are really cheap. I've heard complaints from Infiniti owners on the same thing, but Infiniti addressed this in the 2006 model year.

The real problems lie in the purchase process I went through. I experienced truly deceptive items that will prevent me from dealing with that dealership again. In addition, I feel that the service is sub-par for an entry level luxury dealership.

I've owned two Lexus and had excellent experiences with both the cars and the dealerships. I'll be going back there next time.

Just a final note and that is that my experience is limited to two dealerships on both Acura and Lexus.
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Old 02-17-06, 08:20 PM   #34 (permalink)
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I probably will not buy another Acura unless they were going to produce a V8. My wife works for Honda/Acura in the IT Dept and she heard that they scrapped the V8 project and invested those R&D dollars in their Aerospace Division. So I guess they are not coming with a v8 and that would be the main reason I will not buy another Acura. Plus for a car that is suppose to compete in the luxury-mkt they should have made the interior with better quality.
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I probably will not buy another Acura unless they were going to produce a V8. My wife works for Honda/Acura in the IT Dept and she heard that they scrapped the V8 project and invested those R&D dollars in their Aerospace Division. So I guess they are not coming with a v8 and that would be the main reason I will not buy another Acura. Plus for a car that is suppose to compete in the luxury-mkt they should have made the interior with better quality.
Ahhh...love insider info! Prolly not her area of intelligence...but I wonder if Acura is planning to address the interior assembly? They MUST be hearing enough about it to not seek improvements? Anyone read, hear or know of Acura's acknowledgement of this issue?
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I just purchased my 3rd Acura yesterday which is the second brand new car I have purchased from Acura. First was a 3 year old CL 3.0, In August of 2002 I bought a new 03 CL Type S and yesterday I purchased a new 2006 TL. I keep going back to Acura because of the great customer service I have recieved over the last 7 years of ownership, I have dealt with 2 different dealers in my area (I purchase from one and do service with another, the dealer I buy from has given me a great deal everytime but the dealer I service with is closer to me). I have had a few problems over the years (trans in the 03 once and a front end noise that was hard to track down) I get no questions asked service and no run around, I feel Acura is a quality product for the money definately the most bang for the buck period, Infiniti and Lexus build great automobiles and I did look at both of them each time before I purchased..... I keep going back to the Acura. I will definately buy another Acura down the road.

On a side note, I have owned 4 Corvettes over the last 10 years, GM customer service just sucks compared to the service I have recieved from Acura, GM has to have one of the worst track records for customer service I have ever seen.
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For those of you raving about Infinitis, don't waste your money; our 'other car' is a G35 coupe, and while it's a beautiful car on the outside (aside from the down-right shitty paint quality) and can be fun to race around in, the car is one of the crappiest we've ever owned.

The interior is nothing but a plastic, non-ergonomic and flat out UGLY cockpit, with zero design efficiency at all. The controls are ugly and nowhere near where they need to be, and between the rattles/whistles/creaks, there's brake shudder starting at 12K miles, a gas tank that thinks it's full at 3 gallons (shuts the gas pump down due to splashback) and a whole mile of nit-picky other complaints I won't bother to list here.

Now I'm not a young ignoramous that thinks that because we bought a crapheap that all of them are that way, but to put it simply:

Overall, the car feels CHEAP. Build quality simply does not compare to Acura/BMW/Lexus at all, and I'd encourage everyone that's considering one to really think twice; it's really just a shiny turd, and you'll undoubtedly become more disappointed than you'd think you could with it.

So ends the gospel according to me... now.. what're we talkin about?
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For those of you raving about Infinitis, don't waste your money; our 'other car' is a G35 coupe, and while it's a beautiful car on the outside (aside from the down-right shitty paint quality) and can be fun to race around in, the car is one of the crappiest we've ever owned.

The interior is nothing but a plastic, non-ergonomic and flat out UGLY cockpit, with zero design efficiency at all. The controls are ugly and nowhere near where they need to be, and between the rattles/whistles/creaks, there's brake shudder starting at 12K miles, a gas tank that thinks it's full at 3 gallons (shuts the gas pump down due to splashback) and a whole mile of nit-picky other complaints I won't bother to list here.

Now I'm not a young ignoramous that thinks that because we bought a crapheap that all of them are that way, but to put it simply:

Overall, the car feels CHEAP. Build quality simply does not compare to Acura/BMW/Lexus at all, and I'd encourage everyone that's considering one to really think twice; it's really just a shiny turd, and you'll undoubtedly become more disappointed than you'd think you could with it.

So ends the gospel according to me... now.. what're we talkin about?
Its funny how the more expensive the car, the more complaints. People NEVER complained about the 94 Civic I have... other than ther power. But they knew that when they bought the car.

I was never sold on the G35. It was always a glorified Altima in my book. But those M's.... my God... I love them so much!!!
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I would purchase ACURA again this is the 4th car that I purchased brand new.
The other 3 before the TL were HONDA models 1980 Prelude, 90 ACCORD, 94 ACCORD. I wish ACURA would get up to speed with putting the newer features in the cars a little faster. I love the HID headlights in my car I do alot of night road driving. I would like to see the Night Vision setup like on the new Benz. ACURA already has been testing it so what are they waiting for. Also put out a Gas/Electric hybrid RL/TL & other models. They could put AWD in other models like TL & TSX. Everybody does not want a MDX Suv just to get AWD.

That's an interesting comment about putting new features in their cars. I'd hadn't really thought about it. I personally thought that Toyota/Lexus was a bit slow to add some of the simple creature comforts to their cars. I just looked at the 02 GS300 and still no controls on the steering wheel for cruise,radio,etc. Why is that? Most other cars have had those since the mid 90's. And the cup holders are almost a joke on the Toy/Lexus from 96-02. They are probably better in the new cars, but they were really slow to get something functional in their cars. I guess every brand has its strengths/weaknesses. These are minor items and it appears that you're talking about major offerings so I agree that Acura is limited in their range of offerings that you describe.

On a different note, I would appreciate any thoughts on the TL regarding excessive rattles in the interior and excessive vibration at certain speeds due to shift point(harmonic vibration). How common are these problems in the 04TL? I'm considering buying an 04TL versus an 02 GS300. They are very different vehicles and both have their strengths. I'm getting some concern for the talk about rattles, build quality, and vibration in the TL. These are not issues in the GS. My preference is for the TL because of the styling, but I really want reliability. I always buy used and drive for 5-6 years. My current RL has 142,000 trouble free miles so reliability is probably #1. Any personal experience or opinions are welcome.
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Lightbulb Quality vs. Features?

I think it is simply the marketing approach each manufacturer decides upon to identify themselves from each other.

Although there is fierce competition to 'one up' each other, and they will follow the buyers demands, ulltimately if they did not make clear decisions as to what to manufacture uniquely, then all cars and manufactuers would be the same.

My personal observations with Toyota and Lexus has been focused on the refinement / reliablility of their vehicles. Most of the newer technology has been added by competitive pressure more than by trying to be leading edge. I personally like that Toyota / Lexus tend to deliver it right, tried and true (not all cases, obviously). I call Camrys 'refrigerators on wheels'. Like an appliance, just plug em in, and they work. Lexus takes the refinement to the nth degree and where comfortable adds technology to be market competitive.

With Honda / Acura, the value and content (along with reliability) seems to be more of their approach. I find Hondas 'smart', well balanced value, performance, efficiency, safety, reliability, etc. Acura is well into the technology race with the TL being a dramatic statement of that philosophy. I don't find Honda / Acura as refined as Toyota/Lexus, but I find them more technologically advanced, more edgey and lean more towards engines & performance than Toyota / Lexus.

I also believe all manufacturers are slipping on quality. I believe there is more a race of content and new technology to impress the buyer (while riding on a reputation of quality). 10 years ago, it was ALL about quality in brand reputation. Today you hear more about the newest features, content, performance and value. The references of quality seem to be based on historic reputation. If the focus is to stuff as mutch gadgetry in the vehicle impresses the buyer, then maybe a slight in quality will go unnoticed? I do know a rattle in my TL is noticed and it does affect my perception of a 'premium' brand & quality.

Obviously, the race to add content does not typically allow for this technology to be optimumly integrated or tried and true. It opens the door for quality issues (at least a perception of quality). Technology is impressive, but in our leading edge thirst, it may not be reliable. An IT associate of mine often reminds me that leading edge technology is fragile. An interesting paradox I see affecting our automobiles (including high tech assembly).

But like most people, I want it all. I want the edginess of the TL. I want all the wizbang features. I also want my interior assembled by Lexus (for the Acura price)!

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I think it is simply the marketing approach each manufacturer decides upon to identify themselves from each other.

Although there is fierce competition to 'one up' each other, and they will follow the buyers demands, ulltimately if they did not make clear decisions as to what to manufacture uniquely, then all cars and manufactuers would be the same.

My personal observations with Toyota and Lexus has been focused on the refinement / reliablility of their vehicles. Most of the newer technology has been added by competitive pressure more than by trying to be leading edge. I personally like that Toyota / Lexus tend to deliver it right, tried and true (not all cases, obviously). I call Camrys 'refrigerators on wheels'. Like an appliance, just plug em in, and they work. Lexus takes the refinement to the nth degree and where comfortable adds technology to be market competitive.

With Honda / Acura, the value and content (along with reliability) seems to be more of their approach. I find Hondas 'smart', well balanced value, performance, efficiency, safety, reliability, etc. Acura is well into the technology race with the TL being a dramatic statement of that philosophy. I don't find Honda / Acura as refined as Toyota/Lexus, but I find them more technologically advanced, more edgey and lean more towards engines & performance than Toyota / Lexus.

I also believe all manufacturers are slipping on quality. I believe there is more a race of content and new technology to impress the buyer (while riding on a reputation of quality). 10 years ago, it was ALL about quality in brand reputation. Today you hear more about the newest features, content, performance and value. The references of quality seem to be based on historic reputation. If the focus is to stuff as mutch gadgetry in the vehicle impresses the buyer, then maybe a slight in quality will go unnoticed? I do know a rattle in my TL is noticed and it does affect my perception of a 'premium' brand & quality.

Obviously, the race to add content does not typically allow for this technology to be optimumly integrated or tried and true. It opens the door for quality issues (at least a perception of quality). Technology is impressive, but in our leading edge thirst, it may not be reliable. An IT associate of mine often reminds me that leading edge technology is fragile. An interesting paradox I see affecting our automobiles (including high tech assembly).

But like most people, I want it all. I want the edginess off the TL. I want all the wizbang features. I also want my interior assembled by Lexus (for the Acura price)!
I agree with everything you've stated here. As for the last paragraph, keep on dreamin'.
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I agree with everything you've stated here. As for the last paragraph, keep on dreamin'.
Thanks for that wakeup call General! <saluting>

I kinda figured sneeking a TL onto a Lexus assembly line would not go unnoticed.
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