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And let's face it - even if they would go around in vans randomly X-Raying shit... how would we know?

I guess until someone would somehow find out.

The new "radar detector"? X-Ray detector?

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The amount of radiation considered safe for most humans is the equivalent of one chest x-ray per year. Anything above that is considered dangerous.

First, consider that the human body is mostly water...soft tissue which x-rays can easily penetrate. Now, consider that what these vans are doing is attempting to penetrate sheet metal with those very same x-rays. They'll need much higher amounts of radiation, and anyone caught in an x-ray beam coming out of one of these vans without any shielding will be overexposed...and probably won't realize it until they develop burns or other symptoms.

I'm certainly not one of these paranoid types who won't have a cell tower near my house, but this is not only exposure to dangerous amounts of radiation but also unchecked governmental snooping on private citizens of the type we foolishly allowed nine years ago with the Patriot Act. The authors of the Bill of Rights must be doing spins in their graves, especially those who wrote the Fourth Amendment. Unfortunately I can see our current Supreme Court finding some convoluted reasoning to justify it on Fourth Amendment grounds.

This is how it occurs, folks...bit by bit...our rights and freedoms become eroded and eventually disappear, because of things like this which, in another era, would have been considered an outrageous and unwarranted intrusion into our privacy. Now, in the name of fighting terrorism, it seems anything goes...including our freedom.

It needs to be stopped. It won't be.

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Originally Posted by RPhilMan1 View Post
Now, if they were to advertise or make it known that they will be doing mobile scanning at such places as sporting events, political gatherings, or national landmarks, I might be okay with that.
F that. I wouldn't be ok with that at all. It's not like anywhere besides the U.N building and the White House needs that kind of security anyways. I can see getting patted down by security before games and concerts and stuff (as they often do) to make sure you're not packing weapons, but X-rays? Really? What, do you think I have a flask or a 9mm shoved up my ass? Or stashed under the seats in my car? How the hell is this an efficient use of resources? I'd like to see ONE positive outcome of this, in quantifiable terms. And what are they going to do if they x-ray your car and they do find a gun that's not registered to you or something? Sit there and chill until the event is over?

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I'd like to see ONE positive outcome of this, in quantifiable terms.
Believe don't. The PTB's attitude will be "if it prevents ONE attack, its use is justifiable," and you can bet any amount of money that they'll find something, even if they have to make it up (and how are we going to prove otherwise). Never mind that the Constitution prohibits it. Never mind that this goes against every principle this country was founded upon.

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