Great I guess I'll be making this purchase when I get a chance.
Read above in my original post.kobe98 said:What's the offset of your rims and the size of your tires? Did you rub w/ the H&Rs? Did you have a system in your trunk? I know so many questions. But I want to go lower and I'm already rubbing w/ people in the back w/ the H&Rs. I'm also thinking about getting the camber kit also which might make things worse.
Thanks
Perhaps with the camber kit installed, an offset of maybe +45 would be more in order? Not totally sure, but the high +49 offset may set the wheels/tires out too far with the proper camber kit on. Perhaps some of the "gurus" on suspensions/tires can address that better than me.....just a thought.jimster716 said:
Read above in my original post.
I did not rub with the H&R sports. This was due to the excessive negative camber in the rear. With load in the rear applied, the wheels would tuck into the wheel well without rubbing...there would be a greater negative camber thereby making the top of the wheels go further into the well. Now that I have neutral camber upon load, the wheel/tire goes straight up relatively speaking hitting the lip of the fender.
A +49 offset on a 7.5" wide wheel goes IN further into the wheel well than a +45 wheel meaning that the +45 wheel would stick out further. Remember our stock wheels are 6.5" wide with a +55 offset which go into the wheel well even further than a 7.5" wide +49 offset wheel.Indyjenks said:
Perhaps with the camber kit installed, an offset of maybe +45 would be more in order? Not totally sure, but the high +49 offset may set the wheels/tires out too far with the proper camber kit on. Perhaps some of the "gurus" on suspensions/tires can address that better than me.....just a thought.
Ok...I had it bass ackwards....:wired: You might be able to have your wheels machined relatively safely out to about 52mm. That might save you from having to roll your fenders...jimster716 said:
A +49 offset on a 7.5" wide wheel goes IN further into the wheel well than a +45 wheel meaning that the +45 wheel would stick out further. Remember our stock wheels are 6.5" wide with a +55 offset which go into the wheel well even further than a 7.5" wide +49 offset wheel.
Unfortunately for aftermarket wheels in 18 or 19" diameters you aren't going to find wheel less than 7.5" wide so you have to go with the highest offset possible. There aren't many aftermarket wheels with an offset greater than +49.
Jimster, I thinking of getting some wheels in the future (if $ comes available that is). The wheel I'm interested in comes in 18x8, with a +51 offset. If I get a camber kit (not necessarily what you got), would I have any problems with rubbing with the fender lip or the suspension? BTW, tires will probably be 225-40-18, and I'm currently dropped with H&R race springs (2.2" front, 1.75" rear). Thanks in advance!jimster716 said:
A +49 offset on a 7.5" wide wheel goes IN further into the wheel well than a +45 wheel meaning that the +45 wheel would stick out further. Remember our stock wheels are 6.5" wide with a +55 offset which go into the wheel well even further than a 7.5" wide +49 offset wheel.
Unfortunately for aftermarket wheels in 18 or 19" diameters you aren't going to find wheel less than 7.5" wide so you have to go with the highest offset possible. There aren't many aftermarket wheels with an offset greater than +49.
Did you get a wheel alignment done? If no, that would explain premature tire wear. Also, what kind of rubber are you using? When I had my Yokohama A008 tires on my old car, they only lasted like 9 months. If you get high performance tires with high tire wear...well you pay for what you get (great performance and handling, but at a substantial cost in replacing them). Maybe you can switch to something that is a bit less performance, but higher tire wear so it lasts longer? Also your driving habits will dictate tire wear. If you drive and corner hard all the time, you can expect to have higher tire wear. You could perhaps drive a bit less aggressively, and it can save you some extra $. Just my $0.02 cents.Slammed99TL said:how come everybody gets rear camber kits? I wear pretty even in the rear......my problem is with the front tires I went through 4....yes I said four.......sets of tires in 9 months![]()
untill I got my 19's..........my car wasnt even that low it sat right ontop of the tire.......now I have about a 2 finger gap because I cant afford 19" tires every 2-3 months........since I have raised the car the tire wear in the front is better.....but it still wears
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.......is anybody else having this problem?
how long do tires last you guys and how low are your cars?![]()
From what I'm seeing you will definitely have problems especially with the Race Springs since you can't adjust height anyways. With the 8" wide wheels with a +51mm offset. The difference in offset between your wheels and my wheels is only 2mm while the difference in width of the wheels is .5" or 12.7mm. Basically this means my wheels have about 1.83" inches from the hub to the outer lip while yours will have almost exactly 2" which equals about a bit less than 3/16" farther out than my wheels.patrick said:
Jimster, I thinking of getting some wheels in the future (if $ comes available that is). The wheel I'm interested in comes in 18x8, with a +51 offset. If I get a camber kit (not necessarily what you got), would I have any problems with rubbing with the fender lip or the suspension? BTW, tires will probably be 225-40-18, and I'm currently dropped with H&R race springs (2.2" front, 1.75" rear). Thanks in advance!
Hows the wear on your tires with that drop? Thankspatrick said:
Jimster, I thinking of getting some wheels in the future (if $ comes available that is). The wheel I'm interested in comes in 18x8, with a +51 offset. If I get a camber kit (not necessarily what you got), would I have any problems with rubbing with the fender lip or the suspension? BTW, tires will probably be 225-40-18, and I'm currently dropped with H&R race springs (2.2" front, 1.75" rear). Thanks in advance!
It's OK, still got lots of tread left. Mind you I don't drive very aggressive, so it helps. Oh, and I do rotate my tires so I have tire wear that is more even.kobe98 said:
Hows the wear on your tires with that drop? Thanks
Hmm...interesting. So what you are saying is that if I want to get these 18x8 rims, I can't get the camber kit. The wheel needs negative camber in order to fit. Correct me if I'm wrong?jimster716 said:
From what I'm seeing you will definitely have problems especially with the Race Springs since you can't adjust height anyways. With the 8" wide wheels with a +51mm offset. The difference in offset between your wheels and my wheels is only 2mm while the difference in width of the wheels is .5" or 12.7mm. Basically this means my wheels have about 1.83" inches from the hub to the outer lip while yours will have almost exactly 2" which equals about a bit less than 3/16" farther out than my wheels.
Yes...that's what I'm saying. You could roll your fenders or deal with the negative camber. Craptastic situation from what I see now. But i haven't cut that plastic tab off yet to see if that's the only part rubbing but like i said before i don't think that'll be enough.patrick said:
Hmm...interesting. So what you are saying is that if I want to get these 18x8 rims, I can't get the camber kit. The wheel needs negative camber in order to fit. Correct me if I'm wrong?
OK, thanks! Keep us informed.jimster716 said:
Yes...that's what I'm saying. You could roll your fenders or deal with the negative camber. Craptastic situation from what I see now. But i haven't cut that plastic tab off yet to see if that's the only part rubbing but like i said before i don't think that'll be enough.![]()